Podcast 260 – Moore No More

roymoore2Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore has been suspended without pay from his office until the end of his term, effectively putting an end to his judicial career. Moore becomes (as far as we can tell) the only judge in US history to be removed from office TWICE (the first time over his installation of a 2.5 ton Ten Commandments monument in the judiciary building; the second time over his obstruction of the US Supreme Court’s same-sex marriage ruling in Obergefell v Hodges. Moore is appealing the decision, although there seems very little chance it will be reversed. Good riddance, we say, although it wouldn’t surprise us to see him continue in the political arena; e.g. running for governor or for Congress.


Teresa MacBain, who left the Methodist ministry in 2012 and “came out” as an atheist, has in recent months quietly returned to religion. The freethought community is obviously dismayed and disappointed by this decision, although we wish her the best as she explores what she has describes as a more “progressive” Christianity. (Listen to our interview with Ms. MacBain back in episode 160.)

Baseball legend Curt Schilling (lately an infamous anti-evolution tweeter and anti-transgender pinhead) has said he’s considering running against Senator Elizabeth Warren in 2018. This could be interesting, but it seems a fair bet at this point that Warren would crush him like a bug.

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Good Riddance, Roy Moore…

…although I’m sure we haven’t seen the last of him.

In case you haven’t been following the news, Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore has been permanently suspended without pay for the remainder of his term by the state’s Judicial Inquiry Commission (JIC) for ethics violations related to his actions in the aftermath of the United States Supreme Court decision Obergefell v Hodges, which ruled that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marriage. Moore must also pay court costs. The fact that, at age 69, Moore will be barred by law from re-election in 2018 is just icing on the cake.

Alabama is America’s perennial second-worst state (I’m lookin’ at you, Mississippi!),  consistently ranking near or at the bottom for just about anything you’d care to measure: poverty, health, teen pregnancy, etc. Alabama also ranks at the very top for religiosity: a recent Pew Research poll revealed that 77% of Alabamians “say religion is very important in their lives.” And let’s be clear: by “religious” Alabamians mean “evangelical fundamentalist Protestantism,” the infamously conservative, regressive strain of Christianity that hates abortion and gays with near equal intensity, and (troublesome for the rest of us) insists that everybody else does, too. [There is a strong correlation between religiosity and lack of education, which leads to the high levels of misery outlined above, but details of that are a discussion for another day.]

Which brings us back to Roy Moore. What’s so frustrating about Alabama’s now-suspended Chief Justice is that, with his resume, he could have been a force for good in the state. Rising from humble beginnings, he graduated from West Point, served in Vietnam, was appointed a circuit judge in 1992, and was elected Chief Justice (for the first time) in 2000.

Unfortunately, Moore’s burning religiosity and abrasive personality have tainted his career almost from the beginning. He was so hated by his troops in Vietnam he feared being fragged, and while a circuit judge he could not resist forcing his religious beliefs on everyone else, prominently posting a hand-carved Ten Commandments plaque in his courtroom and inviting clergy to lead jurors in prayer before deliberations. This led to a long and complicated lawsuit in the mid-1990s that Moore basically lost until the state supreme court threw it out on a technicality.

(As an aside, my entrance into freethought activism began around this time, when I attended a presentation at the Atlanta Freethought Society by one of jurors who objected to Moore’s shenanigans. At that presentation I met several people who are friends to this day, and I have been involved in the freethought community and secular movement ever since.)

Riding a wave of pious indignation, Moore was elected as the state’s Chief Justice in 2000, in which capacity he upped the ante by having a 2.5-ton marble Ten Commandments monument installed in the Alabama Judicial Building. The ensuing kerfuffle ended with the Ten Commandments removed from the building, and Moore removed from office by the JIC for ethical violations. Moore spent his years of exile honing his crackpot theories on the “moral foundations of the law” (meaning his own narrow, willful misinterpretation of the relationship–of which there is none, really–between Christianity and the Constitution).

Of course, no one ever lost money betting against the stupidity of the American voter, and in 2012 we was returned by Alabamians to the office of Chief Justice. At first it looked like he would stay below the radar, but soon he butted heads with the federal courts when he issued an administrative order in the wake of Obergefell v Hodges, ordering that “Until further decision by the Alabama Supreme Court, the existing orders of the Alabama Supreme Court that Alabama probate judges have a ministerial duty not to issue any marriage license contrary to the Alabama Sanctity of Marriage Amendment or the Alabama Marriage Protection Act remain in full force and effect.” Which was unadulterated bullshit, since the opinion of the United States Supreme Court was crystal clear that states cannot deny couples the right to marry based on sexual preference. Period, end of sentence.

And so, Roy Moore finds himself permanently retired from the Alabama judiciary, and all freedom-loving, rational-thinking Americans should rejoice. But we should not be blind to the fact that there are many avenues still open to Moore’s mischief: he could run for Governor, for Congress or (although unlikely) for President. At the very least, he’ll continue to write columns and books spouting his church-and-state claptrap, and there are countless venues that will provide him a platform. Vigilance against Moore’s special strain of religious fascism is warranted for the foreseeable future.

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Podcast #259 – Karen Garst (Women Beyond Belief)

Basic RGBWe interview Karen Garst, editor of Women Beyond Belief: Discovering Life without Religion. This new collection contains 22 essays by women from various backgrounds, telling their stories of how the decided to leave religion and embrace secular, rational values. Women Beyond Belief is available in paperback and for Kindle.

For more about Karen Garst and her projects, visit faithlessfeminist.com.

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Podcast #258 – Live at DragonCon 2016

dragoncon2016John Snider (sans David Driscoll, sadly) presents another live show at DragonCon’s Skeptrack in Atlanta. He’s joined by Mandisa Thomas (founder and president of Black Nonbelievers) and Gina Colaianni (student activist and former president of Kennesaw State University’s Secular Student Alliance) in discussing “Diversity in the Skeptic/Freethought Community.”

Many thanks to Derek Colanduno (organizer of the Skeptrack and co-host of the pioneering Skepticality podcast), as well as Mark Ditsler of Abrupt Media for providing stellar audiovisual services.

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Podcast #257 – Is Intelligent Design Dead (or Just Regrouping)?

We discuss a recent article by Donald Prothero in Skeptic magazine, in which he looks at the state of the Intelligent Design movement, ten years after its stinging defeat in Kitzmiller v. Dover. The overwhelming majority of scientists are against ID (and Creationism in general), and the courts have ruled that it’s purely religious. They’re not gone, but the IDiots are shifting their tactics. Can Intelligent Design make a comeback?


An anti-gay preacher who gloated in the aftermath of the Orlando nightclub massacre has been arrested on suspicion of molesting an underaged male.

Islamophobia at home and abroad! Newton County, Georgia has issued a moratorium on ALL religious construction, now that a Muslim group from metro Atlanta wants to build a mosque there. And in France (where they’re still reeling from devastating terrorist attacks) several townships are trying to ban the burkini (a modesty swimsuit favored by some Muslim women) from public beaches.

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Podcast #256 – Matthew O’Neil (After Life)

afterlifeWe interview Matthew O’Neil, author of After Life: Solving Science and Religion’s Great Disagreement. In his new book, he looks at what the Bible actually says about things like Heaven, Hell, the soul and Resurrection, and how it differs from modern, mainstream Christian ideas. He also delves into what science can tell us about an afterlife and about the process of death.

We previously spoke with Matthew in episode #242 about his book What the Bible Really Does (and Doesn’t Say) about Sex.


If you’re coming to DragonCon, come see American Freethought live at the Skeptrack, Monday, September 5th at 11:30am. The topic will be “Diversity in the Freethought/Skeptic Community” and there will be special guests.

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Desert Resurrection

desertresurrectionFor the last nine years, the song “To Be Dead” by the long-defunct St. Louis-based alternative rock band Body Found has provided the intro and sign-off music for the American Freethought podcast.

Did I say “long-defunct”? I meant long-dormant. In recent years, the members of Body Found (including my brother, bassist Greg Snider), have gotten together for a couple of more-or-less informal jam sessions, blowing the dust off their instruments and reminiscing about the good ol’ days. But during their most recent reunion–in Phoenix, Arizona–they gathered in a professional recording studio to record (and re-record) a new album of their original songs. The result is the album Desert Resurrection, available starting today at Amazon.com, iTunes and most of the other places you can download music.

About half the tracks are new interpretations of songs–including “To Be Dead”–off their one and only previous release (a self-titled and nowadays extremely hard-to-find cassette from 1992); a couple are songs they demo’d back in the day but never distributed; and a couple are original songs they performed but never recorded until now.

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Podcast #255 – Is Kaine Able?

timkaineWe take a look–from a freethinking and skeptical viewpoint–at Democratic Platform 2016, as well as the political positions of Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton’s pick as Vice Presidential running mate.


The recent leak of emails from the Democratic National Committee shows that some staffers, at least, entertained the despicable notion of using presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ supposed atheism against him in an effort to aid rival Hillary Clinton among the “Southern Baptist peeps.”

Body Found–an alt-rock band active in St. Louis, Missouri in the early 1990’s, whose song “To Be Dead” is this podcast’s theme song–has a new album! Desert Ressurection is available August 1st via Amazon.com, iTunes, and all the usual places you can download music. Show your appreciation for their contribution to American Freethought!

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Podcast #254 – Pence and Insensibility

trumppenceWe take a look–from a freethinking and skeptical viewpoint–at Republican Platform 2016, as well as the political positions of Indiana Governor Mike Pence, Donald Trump’s pick as Vice Presidential running mate.


A new Pew poll shows evangelicals and so-called “nones” falling in line behind Trump and Clinton, respectively and unsurprisingly. The poll also shows a reasurring drop in the number of voters who say that it’s important that the President have strong religious beliefs.

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Podcast #253 – Baby Fingers, Baby Christian

trumpfingersFor the third presidential election cycle in a row, evangelical fundamentalist Christians have failed to nominate a Republican candidate that’s a full-throated theocratic nut job (although they came close with Ted Cruz). And once again they’re faced with the daunting task of keeping themselves relevant by throwing their weight behind the inevitable candidate, no matter how odious he may be. And so, we have people like Focus Crosshairs on the Family president James Dobson declaring, with no evidence, really, that Donald Trump (he of the bloviation and baby fingers) is now a “baby Christian” who was brought to Christ “recently.” Trump himself has made laughable attempts to ingratiate himself to the fundamentalist vote, quoting “Two” Corinthians and saying his favorite Bible verse is “an eye for an eye”–the one Bible verse that Jesus explicitly refuted! Anyway, a road is being paved to give conservative Christians an path (rickety at best) to vote for Trump as one of theirs.


A federal judge blocks Mississippi’s Orwellian “Protecting Freedom of Conscience from Government Discrimination Act,” a law expressly designed to enable anti-gay, one-man-one-woman Christian bigots from ever having to deal with anyone in the LGBT community. Look for this one to be resolved in a year or two by the Supreme Court, almost certainly on the side of those who want to see all citizens treated equally and without discrimination.

Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter boondoggle has opened for business in central Kentucky. Holey Scripture looks at how the Ark (both Noah’s and Ham’s) was made. And just what the heck is “gopher” wood?

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