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		<title>By: American Freethought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Podcast #41 - Neil deGrasse Tyson</title>
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		<title>By: American Freethought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Neil deGrasse Tyson on The Daily Show</title>
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		<title>By: Laurel Kornfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Kornfeld</dc:creator>
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		<description>The IAU planet definition is anything but objective. It is political, driven by a tiny group of astronomers with their own agenda who hijacked the vote on the last day of a two-week conference and violated the IAU&#039;s own bylaws to create an untenable planet definition.

Having an odd, elliptical orbit does not disqualify an object from being a planet. Many exoplanets recently discovered have highly eccentric orbits yet are many times bigger than Jupiter.

Pluto IS a planet because unlike most objects in the Kuiper Belt, it has attained hydrostatic equilibrium, meaning it has enough self-gravity to have pulled itself into a round shape. When an object is large enough for this to happen, it becomes differentiated with core, mantle, and crust, just like Earth and the larger planets, and develops the same geological processes as the larger planets, processes that inert asteroids and most KBOs do not have.

Not distinguishing between shapeless asteroids and objects whose composition clearly makes them planets is a disservice and is sloppy science. 

As of now, there are three other KBOs that meet this criterion and therefore should be classified as planets—Haumea, Makemake, and Eris. Only one KBO has been found to be larger than Pluto, and that is Eris.

The IAU definition makes no linguistic sense, as it states that dwarf planets are not planets at all. That’s like saying a grizzly bear is not a bear. Second, it defines objects solely by where they are while ignoring what they are. If Earth were placed in Pluto’s orbit, by the IAU definition, it would not be a planet. That is because the further away an object is from its parent star, the more difficulty it will have in clearing its orbit.

Significantly, this definition was adopted by only four percent of the IAU, most of whom are not planetary scientists. No absentee voting was allowed. It was done so in a highly controversial process that violated the IAU’s own bylaws, and it was immediately opposed by a petition of 300 professional astronomers saying they will not use the new definition, which they described accurately as “sloppy.” Also significant is the fact that many planetary scientists are not IAU members and therefore had no say in this matter at all.

Many believe we should keep the term planet broad to encompass any non-self-luminous spheroidal object orbiting a star. 

We can distinguish different types of planets with subcategories such as terrestrial planets, gas giants, ice giants, dwarf planets, super Earths, hot Jupiters, etc.

We should be broadening, not narrowing our concept of planet as more objects are being discovered in this and other solar systems.

In a 2000 paper, Dr. Alan Stern and Dr. Hal Levison distinguish two types of planets—the gravitationally dominant ones and the smaller ones that are not gravitationally dominant. However, they never say that objects in the latter category are not planets.

I attended the Great Planet Debate, which actually took place in August 2008, and there was a strong consensus there that a broader, more encompassing planet definition is needed. I encourage anyone interested to listen to and view the conference proceedings at http://gpd.jhuapl.edu/ You can also read more about this issue on my blog at http://laurele.livejournal.com

Significantly, Tyson&#039;s participation in the Great Planet Debate involved far more show than substance. 

You can find the petition of astronomers who rejected the demotion of Pluto here: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/planetprotest/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IAU planet definition is anything but objective. It is political, driven by a tiny group of astronomers with their own agenda who hijacked the vote on the last day of a two-week conference and violated the IAU&#8217;s own bylaws to create an untenable planet definition.</p>
<p>Having an odd, elliptical orbit does not disqualify an object from being a planet. Many exoplanets recently discovered have highly eccentric orbits yet are many times bigger than Jupiter.</p>
<p>Pluto IS a planet because unlike most objects in the Kuiper Belt, it has attained hydrostatic equilibrium, meaning it has enough self-gravity to have pulled itself into a round shape. When an object is large enough for this to happen, it becomes differentiated with core, mantle, and crust, just like Earth and the larger planets, and develops the same geological processes as the larger planets, processes that inert asteroids and most KBOs do not have.</p>
<p>Not distinguishing between shapeless asteroids and objects whose composition clearly makes them planets is a disservice and is sloppy science. </p>
<p>As of now, there are three other KBOs that meet this criterion and therefore should be classified as planets—Haumea, Makemake, and Eris. Only one KBO has been found to be larger than Pluto, and that is Eris.</p>
<p>The IAU definition makes no linguistic sense, as it states that dwarf planets are not planets at all. That’s like saying a grizzly bear is not a bear. Second, it defines objects solely by where they are while ignoring what they are. If Earth were placed in Pluto’s orbit, by the IAU definition, it would not be a planet. That is because the further away an object is from its parent star, the more difficulty it will have in clearing its orbit.</p>
<p>Significantly, this definition was adopted by only four percent of the IAU, most of whom are not planetary scientists. No absentee voting was allowed. It was done so in a highly controversial process that violated the IAU’s own bylaws, and it was immediately opposed by a petition of 300 professional astronomers saying they will not use the new definition, which they described accurately as “sloppy.” Also significant is the fact that many planetary scientists are not IAU members and therefore had no say in this matter at all.</p>
<p>Many believe we should keep the term planet broad to encompass any non-self-luminous spheroidal object orbiting a star. </p>
<p>We can distinguish different types of planets with subcategories such as terrestrial planets, gas giants, ice giants, dwarf planets, super Earths, hot Jupiters, etc.</p>
<p>We should be broadening, not narrowing our concept of planet as more objects are being discovered in this and other solar systems.</p>
<p>In a 2000 paper, Dr. Alan Stern and Dr. Hal Levison distinguish two types of planets—the gravitationally dominant ones and the smaller ones that are not gravitationally dominant. However, they never say that objects in the latter category are not planets.</p>
<p>I attended the Great Planet Debate, which actually took place in August 2008, and there was a strong consensus there that a broader, more encompassing planet definition is needed. I encourage anyone interested to listen to and view the conference proceedings at <a href="http://gpd.jhuapl.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://gpd.jhuapl.edu/</a> You can also read more about this issue on my blog at <a href="http://laurele.livejournal.com" rel="nofollow">http://laurele.livejournal.com</a></p>
<p>Significantly, Tyson&#8217;s participation in the Great Planet Debate involved far more show than substance. </p>
<p>You can find the petition of astronomers who rejected the demotion of Pluto here: <a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/planetprotest/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/planetprotest/</a></p>
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